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Philip Light
Battle of the Budget Reels
Thursday, 05 November 2009 17:05
Written by Philip Light

To continue our budget fly fishing gear comparisons series, we give you: the Battle of the Budget Reels.  In our Battle of the Budget Rods article, we reviewed 4 budget fly rods from 4 different manufacturers in the 5 weight category that cost right around $100.  For our Battle of the Budget Reels review, we're reviewing 3 fly reels from 3 different manufacturers that are again, right in the $100 range.  Sure, there are cheaper reels out there, and we may do a sub $100 fly reel review to compare several fly reels in the $50 - $100 range.  We feel that the $100 reel category has some really decent reels in it for the price.  As with the budge fly rod reviews article, we're going to give each reel a score card and judge each reel on several features.  The areas we'll be judging on are: Cost, Weight, Materials, Warranty, Country of Origin and appearance.  We scored the reels on a scale of 1 to 5 with 1 being a poor rating and 5 being the best rating.  Where no information was available, we scored a 2.5 on all models to keep things fair. Total score possible is 30.

The 3 reels we'll be reviewing are the G. Loomis Venture 5 reel at $100, the Redington Surge 5/6 reel at $100 and the Orvis Battenkill disc drag fly reel at $89.  We tried to stay right at $100, but that would've only given us 2 reels to review.  We also considered going $10 over the $100 mark, but there really isn't anything in that category either.  We also didn't want to go to $20 in either direction of $100 because we didn't want to have to review 20 reels.  The reel market is definitely not as straight forward in pricing as the rod market is.


We'll start with the G. Loomis Venture 5 reel.

 

The specs for the G. Loomis Venture 5 are below.

Weight
Diameter
Line Weight
 Cost Warranty
 4.8 oz
 3.0"  5, 6, 7
 $100  1 year

 This is my personal favorite, and I own both the Venture 3 and Venture 5 of this reel.  I think it's clear that it's the sexiest reel in the $100 range on the market, and I've yet to find a situation that this reel can't handle.  From reeling in brook trout on the 3 to hauling 10 pound steelhead on the 5, the venture series reels are a great reel for the money. The Venture 5 comes in a champagne gold anodized aluminum finish and each reel comes with a G. Loomis padded case.  The reels have a quick release spool and an adjustable disc drag.  The Venture 5 reel comes with a 1 year warranty on parts and defects from the date of purchase.  Overall, the G. Loomis is a great reel, with great looks, great materials and a great price! No information was available from G. Loomis on the Country of manufacture.

Our flyfishreviews.com scorecard on the G. Loomis Venture 5 is below:

Cost
 Weight  Materials  Warranty  Origin  Appearance  Total
 2.5  3  4  3  2.5  5  20

 You can review the Venture Series Reels in our database HERE

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Next up is the Redington Surge series reels.

The Specs for the Redington Surge Reels are below.

 Weight  Diameter  Line Weight  Cost  Warranty
 5.6 oz
 3.53"  5  $100  Lifetime

 The Redington Surge series reels appear to be new as of the writing of this review, and to be honest, we haven't got our hands on one yet.  We'd like to change that, and when we do, we'll do an in depth review on them.  For now, to help you in making a decision on a $100 reel, we're going to review the reels based on our scorecard.  We've just added the Surge and Drift series reels to the database, so if you've got one and would like to help others out by reviewing it, please do.  You can review the Surge Series in our database HERE.

The Surge reels are a full aluminum frame and spool mated to a graphite composite drag housing and have a Rulon drag surface.  They are finished in Matte Black.  The biggest attraction we see with this reel (unless Redington just hasn't updated their warranty section) is that this reel comes with a lifetime warranty.  We'll need to confirm this.  We also couldn't confirm country of manufacture.

Our flyfishreviews.com scorecard on the Redington Surge Series Reels is below.

 Cost  Weight  Materials  Warranty  Origin  Appearance  Total
 2.5  2  2  5  2.5  4

 18

You can review the surge series reels in our database HERE

You can purchase a Surge Series reel through the link below to help support flyfishreviews.com

Note!  We noticed that the Surge is available through the link below for less than $100.  We'll keep the review the same since the price quoted was MSRP.

 


The 3rd and final fly reel review is on the Orvis Battenkill disc drag fly reel

 

The Specs for the Orvis Battenkill fly reel are below:

 Weight  Diameter  Line Weight
 Cost  Warranty
 4.7oz  3.125"  5, 6
 $89  Lifetime*

 * Orvis has a 100% satisfaction guarantee.  If you aren't happy with a product, or it breaks, you simply call in an exchange and they'll replace the product.

 The Orvis Battenkill disc drag fly reel is right out in front right out of the gates due to the cost and the warranty, so it's pretty clear without looking too hard that the Battenkill will win this fly reel review comparison. The Battenkill disc drag fly reel is a cast metal frame with a fully adjustable disc drag system in a matte black finish.  The reel sports a classic fly reel look, and is certainly just a good reel. While no specific information could be found, we did find in the Q/A section of the Orvis website that most of their reels are made in China and Korea.  While this is not surprising for reels in this price point, we would personally like to see more made in the USA products in this price range.  Especially from Orvis.

Our scorecard on the Orvis Battenkill disc drag fly reel is below:

 Cost  Weight  Materials  Warranty  Origin  Appearance  Total
5  4  3  5  2.5  3  22.5

You can review an Orvis Battenkill disc drag fly reel in our database HERE

You can purchase an Orvis Battenkill disc drag reel through the link below to help support flyfishreviews.com

 


And the winner is: The Orvis Battenkill disc drag fly reel with a total score of 22.5 out of a possible 30.  As noted above, it's clear to see why the Battenkill disc drag reel won the review.  Combine Orvis's warranty and their lower price and you've got a clear winner.  I still stand by the G. Loomis Venture 5 as my personal favorite, if for nothing else, it's looks.  A friend has a Battenkill large arbor, and while they're not the same reel, he swears by Orvis's quality.  Here's another review in the books and another winner is defined by providing quality products at a rock bottom price and providing a solid warranty.

We hope this review comes in handy for those looking to get started in fly fishing, or for those looking to add another reel to their collection without spending an arm and a leg.  We'll be reviewing budget fly line next to take care of the budget rod/reel/line setup.  Then it's on to budget waders and budget wader boots and vests to have a complete series of articles that will get you geared up for around $600 - $800.  Once the budget series is done, we hope to move on to more series gear and get some good high tech reviews up to compare some high end fly rods, reels, waders and boots. If you're a fly fishing gear manufacturer and you'd like us to review one of your products, please use the contact us link from the main menu on the left.

 

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Philip Light
Battle of the Budget Rods
Wednesday, 07 October 2009 14:12
Written by Philip Light

Battle of the Budget Rods!

Here's our first installment of "Battle of the Budget Gear Series".  We're kicking off with a budget fly rod review.

With the Economy in the slackwater and for beginners, we wanted to compare a few low cost rods for beginners or to add to your fly rod arsenal.   This is the first part in a series of articles that explore the world of Budget Fly Fishing Gear.  We hope to do: Rods, Reels, Waders, Wading Boots, Fly Line and Vests.  If you have any suggestions for gear you'd like reviewed, drop us a line using the "contact us" menu on the left.

For our budget fly rod comparison, we're going to look at 4 different rods from 4 different manufacturers, Orvis, Redington, St. Croix and Cabela's.  For Orvis, we'll be looking at the $98.00 Streamline series of rods.  From Redington, their $80.00 Crosswater rods.  St. Croix will be the $100 Triumph Rods, and from Cabela's, we'll use their $100 Traditional II rods for comparison.  We chose rods that were in the $100 price range for a 9'-0" 5wt, 2 piece rod.  We'll be looking at several aspects of the rods, such as, materials used, country of origin, build quality, rod action, warranty, weight and cost.  Since all of the rods generally fall in the medium action range, the rod action segment will be based on the rod's "feeling" while casting, to determine whether one rod has more tip flex than the other for example. 

For our comparison, we'll be scoring each rod on a 1-5 scale, with 1 being negative and 5 being positive.  Each category above will get a score, and the total at the end will decide the best rod by our standards (higher total scores are better).


 

We'll start with the Orvis Streamline rod and some specs on the rod.  The Orvis rod is actually a 9'-0" 6wt 2 piece rod with a mid flex action.  Orvis's flex index is a little different than other manufacturers, but in general, a mid flex is a general rod suited for a range of situations.

 

Orvis Streamline Specifications

Length
Pieces
Rod Weight
Line Weight
Cost
 Action
 9'-0"  2  3 1/8 oz
 6  $89.00  Mid Flex (Medium)

 The Streamline rods are a graphite rod blank, grade cork handle, chrome guides and an anodized aluminum reel seat.  They aren't the sexiest rod on the list, but they'll certainly get the job done.  The build quality is what you'd expect from Orvis in the $100 rod range.  They're a good rod, but definitely a $100 rod, but then we're not comparing it to the Helios either!  The rods are manufactured overseas which is to be expected in this price range.  To Orvis's credit, their rods that are manufactured overseas are held to the same strict quality control specifications as their high end rods manufactured in Vermont.

The rod action is a balanced feel and Mid Flex is an accurate account of this rod's flex.  It's a general use fly rod and perfectly suited on a trout stream or pond.  If anything, the rod is a little stiff for a mid action rod, but again, in the $100 range, you can't be too picky about the action.

As for Warrenty on the Orvis Streamline, it comes with a 30 day money back guarantee, as well as Orvis's quality guarantee against defects in materials and workmanship.

Our scorecard for the Orvis Streamline rods is as follows.

Materials
 Build Origin
 Build Quality
Action
Warranty
 Weight  Cost Total
 2  2  3  3  4  3  3  20

You can purchase the Orvis Streamline through the link below to help support flyfishreviews.com


Our next fly rod review is of the Redington Crosswater rods.  The Redington Crosswater rods are the prettiest of the bunch with a real wood reel seat and silver anodized aluminum hardware. I actually use a Redington Crosswater 9'-0" 5wt for a lot of my bigger water fishing here in the east and it's held up great.  Lots of backbone for long casts and fighting bigger fish.  I'm about to put it to work for steelhead in a week.

 

Redington Crosswater Specifications

Length
Pieces
 Rod Weight
Line Weight
Cost
Action
 9'-0"  2 (4 available)
 3.4 oz
 5  $80  Medium - Fast

 

The Crosswater rods are a 35 million modulus graphite rod blank with a AA grade cork handle, real wood reel seat and anodized aluminum hardware as stated above.  They have silicone carbide stripping guides and anodized aluminum guides above.  The unit we tested was a blue graphite and actually a very attractive rod overall.  The build quality is excellent in our opinion, and compared to the Orvis Streamline, we think the Crosswater is a little better.  The rods are manufactured overseas, but to exacting standards that are held up by Team Red (Redington's Prostaff team). 

The rod is listed as a medium fast action, which we'd agree with, and think Orvis should take note of.  This rod is a good all around 5wt rod and is more on the fast side of medium, with a strong backbone.

For warranty, the Crosswater comes with a 1 year warranty on material and workmanship defects.  Damage caused by use of the rod is not covered under this warranty.

Here's our fly rod review for the Redington Crosswater Rod

Materials
Build Origin
Build Quality
Action
Warranty
Weight
Cost
Total
 5  2  3  3  2  2  4  21

You can purchase a Redington Crosswater through the link below to help support flyfishreviews.com


 Next up is the St. Croix Triumph fly rod review.  St. Croix is known for budget rods, and they're readily available in many sporting goods stores.  So how does St. Croix's rod hold up against the others?  Read below to find out.  I used the St. Croix 9'-0" 5wt on the Bighorn River in Montana and it held up well to some big browns and rainbows.

 St. Croix specifications

Length
Pieces
 Rod Weight
 Line Weight
Cost
Action
 9'-0"  2  3.5 oz
 5  $100  Medium-Fast

The St. Croix Triumph is built on St. Croix's SCII graphite with a mid modulus fiber, a premium cork handle, anodized aluminum hardware, stainless steel snake guides and aluminum oxide stripper guides.  The build quality on these rods is good, and for the price, they're right in line with the other rods in this review.  St. Croix Triumph rods are manufactured outside of the US, but they are made in a co-owned facility in Mexico, unlike the other rods in this review which are made in China.  St. Croix is taking a serious stance on the quality of even it's imported rods.  it's evident in the newer rods from this new facility.

The rod action is medium fast, and it shows in it's action on the stream.  It's got a little stiffer action than a true medium rod, and that provides for some good backbone in fighting bigger fish.

The warranty on St. Croix rods is where this choice really shines.  St. Croix has a uinque warranty setup.  The Triumph comes with a standard 5 year warranty, but is backed by their super star warranty plan.  Essentially, if you break your rod, you ship it to St. Croix with a check for $20.  If it's found to have broken due to materials or workmanship, they'll replace the rod.  If, though, you request their Gold Star service, and include a check for $50, they'll either repair or replace your rod regardless of whether you stepped on it or it broke due to craftsmanship!  That's an amazing warranty for a rod in this price class.

Here's our fly rod review for the St. Croix Triumph rod

Materials
Build Origin
Build Quality
Action
Warranty
Weight
 Cost Total
 3  4  3  3  5  2  3  23

You can purchase a St. Croix triumph rod through the link below to help support flyfishreviews.com


 The final review in our fly rod review comparison for budget rods is the Cabelas Traditional II rods.  This is actually the first rod we bought, and the first rod we tested.  This is a straight forward, get the job done kind of rod.  It's not glamorous, but it's efficient and a good rod for the price and does have a rosewood reel seat (we like wood reel seats).  This rod got some time on the water in Montana too.

Cabela's Traditional II Specifications

Length
 Pieces Rod Weight
Line Weight
Cost
Action
 9'-0"  2  Unavailable  5  $109.99  Fast

 This is the first rod with a true Fast action vs. the medium/medium-fast rods in this review.  The materials used are slightly different too in that the rod is built on an olive colored high modulus graphite blank (though the modulus is not specified), has a premium cork handle, anodized aluminum hardware and stainless steel snake guides.  The build quality is right in line with the other rods even though these rods come from overseas.  Cabela's does seem to have some quality control for their imported rods. I never saw Cabela's as a manufacturer, and still don't.  They're on outfitter as far as we're concerned, but they do produce some decent products under their own name.

The rod is definitely a fast action rod, and it's a little too stiff for our liking.  Especially when compared to the other rods in this review.  Overall, this rod earns the bottom rank in our comparison.  Cabela's may sell fine products, but manufacturing isn't their specialty, and it shows when held up against other manufacturers who's core business is building fly rods.

As for warranty, Cabela's offers a one year warranty on parts and defects on all of their name brand products (except their clothing which has a lifetime warranty).

Heres our fly rod review for Cabela's Traditional II rods

Materials
Build Origin
 Build Quality
Action
Warranty
 Weight Cost
Total
 4  2  3  2  2  3  2  18

You can purchase a Cabelas Traditional II through the link below to help support flyfishreviews.com


And the winner is: St. Croix Triumph rods with a total score of 23!  2nd place goes to Redington's Crosswater series rods, 3rd to Orvis's Streamline and last place goes to Cabela's with their Traditional II rods.  Probably not what you would've expected.  This proves somewhat, that name brand isn't everything.  A lot of people swear by Orvis brand fly rods, and while the Streamline isn't necessarily indicative of the brand, in our budget fly rod review, Orvis falls short.  Having fished with all of these rods, I have to say that beyond the categories listed, St. Croix and Redington are truly deserving of their positions in this review.  I personally fish with a Redington Crosswater and Red Fly 2 rod almost exclusively.  You don't have to spend a lot to get a great rod!

A little more detail on the scores.  We tried to give a score of 3 where either information was unavailable, or where all 4 of the rods were equal.  For example, on build quality, we feel that all 4 rods were equal in terms of craftsmanship.  We scored lower on rods that were built overseas more for the fact that it's typically difficult to tell on the manufacturers site.  St. Croix does an excellent job of outlining where their rods are made.  The news of the Mexico facility is brand new and they haven't updated their site yet.  We scored on price based on how far from the $100 mark the rod is.  While the range isn't really worth noting, there is some differences in cost, and they don't seem to jive with the other factors.

We hope this review is useful for someone searching for a new flyrod on a budget.  Stay tuned for our budge fly reel review article!

If any manufacturers wish to redeem themselves by supplying us with a higher price range rod to review, we will gladly accept and do a review on mid to high end rods/reels.

Feel free to argue these points using the comments link below, or discussing it in our forum.

 

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